Poison Poison Everywhere, Nor Any Drop To Drink. Or Is There?
Gum Turpentine and the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS)
NOTHING IN THIS RAMBLE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ADVICE—MEDICAL OR OTHERWISE. ANY REFERENCE TO TURPENTINE IS GUM TURPENTINE ONLY. NOT MINERAL TURPENTINE.
This post is to outline how I used the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) to help decide whether to start consuming gum turpentine as part of my poison detox. process. It is written from a chemical engineering perspective (i.e. not medical). I was sick of continuously deteriorating from the mainstream medical cult’s ‘solutions’ (ahem), and had lost all trust in their analysis (they called my poisoning “multiple sclerosis”), their knowledge and their skills. And their morality. Crucially, I had good evidence of what I had been poisoned by. So I fell back on my chemical engineering training.
The poor old Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). It’s a bit like the poor old Ancient Mariner, reduced to “stoppeth one of three” at the bridegroom’s door.1 I’ve seen it misused and misnamed. Misaligned, mistreated, and misrepresented.
For a start.
The Material Safety Data Sheet is only a tool.
To my knowledge the data in a MSDS is never used as a standalone tool for decision making. Certainly not by professionals who handle chemicals industrially. It’s a very useful tool though. If one knows how to use it. Emphasis and [ ] added.
Understanding LD50 values [obtained from the MSDS] helps professionals evaluate risk, safety margins, and potential therapeutic uses. Source: biologyinsights.com.
With my chemical engineering hat on, and (say) I’m working on site, I’m looking at the MSDS from one perspective. A keeping people safe perspective. We used to call it “the politics of CYA.“ Cover Your A** (doesn’t rhyme with bottom). On site, if I’m responsible for an area and the safety of people in that area, then even the CEO coming in my area must crawl before my most junior staff member who is operating under my instruction. If necessary to keep safe, the CEO must…
So among other things the MSDS will help me decide how the chemical is stored, transported and handled. What on-site first aid might be needed if things go wrong. What staff training will be necessary. What other chemicals it must be kept away from…whatever is necessary to CYA. And I will use the manufacturer’s MSDS and as many other MSDSs of the same chemical from other manufacturers as necessary until I’m satisfied I’ve got all the information I need.
But if I’ve got my Poisoned Kiwi hat on, a MSDS serves a similar but different purpose. For a start I don’t have to worry about the CYA perspective. Only my A is on the line, so I have more freedom.
And I am using a poison. Ingesting it regularly and have been for several months.2 Gum turpentine.
“But wait” I hear. A poison? Gum turpentine is not a poison, according to some of the alternative and traditional healthcare world. Well they’re wrong, from my chemical engineering perspective, and according to the label on the bottle or any gum turpentine MSDS I’ve seen.
The brand I’m ingesting warns on the bottle that it is a poison, instructs users not to swallow, and has information on what to do if swallowed. The politics of CYA.
There are plenty of MSDSs available from different manufacturers of gum turpentine. The ones I’ve seen are all very similar. If they were exactly the same I would be suspicious. That could be an indication of copying. Given gum turpentine raw materials and production process will vary slightly, some data should be different. But not too different.
A MSDS does not necessarily tell you if you’re going to die, or even get ill, if you are exposed to the chemical.
It does give an indication of what may happen. And very importantly from a chemical engineering perspective it indicates whether the material is a poison. If the MSDS has an LD50 < Ꝏ that tells you it is a poison. LD means Lethal Dose. Generally rats or mice are used experimentally to obtain LD data. LD doesn’t tell you if it’s a deadly poison to you.3
I used different MSDSs as part of my decision making process when I was working out how to resolve the poisoning problem and deciding whether to begin consuming gum turpentine.
I had good evidence I had been poisoned by a herbicide called Tordon. But that’s a brand name, not much use. So the first thing I did when I was well enough was to look at the MSDS for Tordon so I could identify what chemicals it consisted of; some nasty organic chemicals were shown.4
After 8 years I was still in a lot of pain and very disabled, though both had reduced when I had stopped taking the so-called painkillers prescribed by the death-cult.5 My first assumption was the pain was still so intense and not reducing because the poison was still in my body. Probably stored away snuggly and securely.
From there I tried to find solutions to removing it from my body. Given the chemicals I identified from the Tordon MSDS, I concluded a solvent of some sort was needed that may remove those chemicals. Finding a powerful organic-chemical solvent that I could drink was the next step. After some time I discovered that gum turpentine was being used orally by humans for health. It’s no secret that turpentine is a solvent for organic chemicals.
The gum turpentine MSDSs told me everything I needed to know. Though there is plenty of useful information I was particularly looking for the toxicological information. In this case the LD50 number. The gum turpentine LD50 number is high (an analysis based on experience).
To me this meant that despite it being a poison, it was probably going to require a large amount ingested before any harm would occur. That was good enough for me.
And it has been widely wildly successful so far. Hasn’t killed me yet, and all my symptoms have improved.6
But I can guarantee if I was responsible for gum turpentine in a chemical engineering context, I would make sure all my staff took a beware of the “poison” attitude towards it. The politics of CYA, based on the information in the Material Safety Data Sheet.
Previous Turpentine Posts
I suspect “one in three” is too low high (whoops) regarding how to properly use a MSDS.
As indicated in my last detox. post, I had stopped using turpentine because I wanted to both see what would happen if I abruptly ceased, and I wanted to start a new regime. Pain increased quickly when I stopped (though not even close to what it had been) but there do not appear to be any other consequences of stopping turpentine cold-turkey. I still haven’t been able to start the new regime as I need to do some preparation work first, and as I’m still not fit enough to do the work myself, help will be needed. After a month I started the turpentine again. Pain reduced immediately.
I’ve no intention in unpacking all the science behind a LD50. There is plenty of information available.
“ a deadly poison to you“ — there’s many variables; quantity exposed to, method of exposure (e.g. consumed, vapour inhaled, skin), exposure duration, concentration...
A starting point is typing “MSDS” + chemical name into a search engine.
“organic chemicals“ — this is a chemical term, not the same as (say) organic when used in conjunction with food.
Does the word “painkiller” actually mean if you are in pain the drug will remove the pain by killing the victim? I’m being facetious. Or am I?
This is not the only thing I’m doing, but gum turpentine has been a game changer.
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Fascinating and helpful! Thank you for this post. I love your question: "Does the word “painkiller” actually mean if you are in pain the drug will remove the pain by killing the victim? I’m being facetious. Or am I?"