the body doesnt need anything to detox, other than drinking clean water and stopping of injesting toxic pharma the docs scare healthy people especially seniors elderly into taking. vax incl.
As I said, I’m not offering any advice. The first line in this post. Telling people what to do is not my business. Neither is the post about zeolite.
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I am saying people should do their own research. I haven’t come across Mike Adams before but he looks solid. I see he’s a trained scientist. So am I. Quite comfortable in the ‘science’ space—esp. chemistry—including filtering out the abundant nonsense.
Regarding your link, I will say I never mentioned heavy metals. I mentioned Tordan. A nasty herbicide.
I said what I’m doing. And improving. As I haven’t seen any marketing I’m not sure specifically what you’re referring to, but one type of zeolite is part of that improvement.
I started taking it to absorb the Tordon which the theory suggested would be released from its storage by the turpentine. Because I couldn’t get the number of bowel movements up to remove the poison as it’s released. Zeolite is to absorb the released Tordon poisons.
What other people do is not my business. The only advice I would give people is make sure of the quality of the materials you’re getting.
Very interesting. Tordon/Picloram contains notrogen and chlorine. Disgusting stuff, Wikipedia says "No history of human intoxication by picloram has been documented, so symptoms of acute exposure are difficult to characterize."
Yes. All sorts of nasty stuff. The symptoms are “one feels $%#&^#”. Neurology/medicine is useful for rebranding the symptoms of poisoning and hiding the consequences of the toxic world we live in.
I had a hair test a few years ago and some of the breakdown chemicals I might expect to see if it was Tordon were present, so I just doubled down on what I was already doing. But it’s frustratingly slow.
I understand some of what you are going through because of my experience with the sodium nitrite (E250) poisoning, facial palsy, LHS hearing loss and fatigue. it is frustrating, I only improve very slowly.
I am interested you got a hair test. May I ask some details, I gather one should take from closest to the scalp but I can't understand why that is necessary. My hair is long as I haven't had it cut since early spring 2020.
Did you specify what might be in the hair or was the testing very comprehensive? There are so many things to test.
years ago I got blood test for heavy metal testing by Quest Labs north carolina ,
found high levels mercury from flu shot and maybe teeth fillings, had fillings replaced and stopped getting any all shots stopped taking the pharma they scared me onto claiming i had lupus, ms, chrohns. not one dictor looked fir cause of my symptoms had to find it myself. stop going to docs, they create patients maker you sicker with rx drugs...i learned the hard way. lucky to find www.drsambailey.com and www.virusTruth.NET during the big convid.
I hear all that. V. frustrating. Especially having to rely on others — this has been the biggest disaster for me. Thinking I could rely on people it turned out I couldn’t. Live and learn.
I wasn’t able to get the information I needed to be satisified about the hair test; the details about what was actually being done test wise so it wasn’t anything other than a ‘oh well doesn’t really tell me anything’ test. You’re right that there is so much to test for. I told them what I thought it might be and the result came back with results indicating this possibility. The presence of possible degradation chemicals.
I’d already decided what it was and have been trying to detox accordingly. Seems to be heading in the right direction.
Sounds right to me, difficult to pin down actual results. I tried to look at being tested for sodium nitrite but could only find in UK those who will test meat/food. Useless lot.
Thanks. It was really to establish by tests if possible that sodium nitrite and the far more toxic nitrosamines are in my body. There will be other things too. As I indicated at the start of this thread I don't feel bad so much as very tired.
So very glad to hear You have found something that is working to a greater extent than in past. I am certain My "auto-immune" issues - psoriatic arthritis, bone spurs - were the result of poisoning, but Mine came in a needle when I was 6. They said it was protection from DDT...er..."polio."
And when I had the money for treatment, I did not have the data to bring Me to see that I was poisoned, and now that I can see that that was what happened, I have no money. So buying things to help detox and all is a wee bit problematic.
Someday I will have what I need, but for now, I just persist.
shouldnt need to do any of these fad remedies. clean water real food, real meat real dairy fresh fruit etc organic if possible, no alcohol, no rx drugs, is all the body needs, the body is brilliant detoxes itself if you do best to stop what is poisoning you. read Toxemia Explained and videos by dr hebert Shelton
Council was spraying it alongside the river (supposedly to kill broom) I was taking my drinking water from at exactly the time my symptoms manifested. I found out from a neighbour six months later. Rural, very remote property. They shouldn’t even have been there. No signs etc.
You will have seen Tordon around the farm. It’s very popular and very dangerous.
I did have a response at the time but couldn’t implement it-too ill. Too late now. The person who should have helped refused to do anything. Pretty helpless in that situation.
My lesson? Choose the people closest to one very very carefully. Age and wisdom aye.
Thank you for sharing the details. I'm so glad for you that you found something that really makes an obvious difference! That must be very exciting. Did you just start the Gum Turpentine a couple of weeks ago?
i cured my lupus by simply stopping the drugs they scared me into. no toxic terpentine or any other weird substance needed. water and real food, sun, clean air all the body needs.
the body doesnt need anything to detox, other than drinking clean water and stopping of injesting toxic pharma the docs scare healthy people especially seniors elderly into taking. vax incl.
www.VirusTruth.NET
great no nonsense website.
Hi there,
A word on zeolites - unfortunately they're not what they're marketed to be..
All the best in your quest for health!
Sarah
https://sarahpenrose.substack.com/p/high-lead-pb-and-high-aluminium-al
As I said, I’m not offering any advice. The first line in this post. Telling people what to do is not my business. Neither is the post about zeolite.
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I am saying people should do their own research. I haven’t come across Mike Adams before but he looks solid. I see he’s a trained scientist. So am I. Quite comfortable in the ‘science’ space—esp. chemistry—including filtering out the abundant nonsense.
Regarding your link, I will say I never mentioned heavy metals. I mentioned Tordan. A nasty herbicide.
https://www.corteva.ca/content/dam/dpagco/corteva/na/ca/en/files/products/sds/DF-Tordon-22K-Herbicide-SDS-English.pdf
I said what I’m doing. And improving. As I haven’t seen any marketing I’m not sure specifically what you’re referring to, but one type of zeolite is part of that improvement.
I started taking it to absorb the Tordon which the theory suggested would be released from its storage by the turpentine. Because I couldn’t get the number of bowel movements up to remove the poison as it’s released. Zeolite is to absorb the released Tordon poisons.
What other people do is not my business. The only advice I would give people is make sure of the quality of the materials you’re getting.
Very interesting. Tordon/Picloram contains notrogen and chlorine. Disgusting stuff, Wikipedia says "No history of human intoxication by picloram has been documented, so symptoms of acute exposure are difficult to characterize."
Looks like you should be one of the cases.
Yes. All sorts of nasty stuff. The symptoms are “one feels $%#&^#”. Neurology/medicine is useful for rebranding the symptoms of poisoning and hiding the consequences of the toxic world we live in.
I had a hair test a few years ago and some of the breakdown chemicals I might expect to see if it was Tordon were present, so I just doubled down on what I was already doing. But it’s frustratingly slow.
I understand some of what you are going through because of my experience with the sodium nitrite (E250) poisoning, facial palsy, LHS hearing loss and fatigue. it is frustrating, I only improve very slowly.
I am interested you got a hair test. May I ask some details, I gather one should take from closest to the scalp but I can't understand why that is necessary. My hair is long as I haven't had it cut since early spring 2020.
Did you specify what might be in the hair or was the testing very comprehensive? There are so many things to test.
years ago I got blood test for heavy metal testing by Quest Labs north carolina ,
found high levels mercury from flu shot and maybe teeth fillings, had fillings replaced and stopped getting any all shots stopped taking the pharma they scared me onto claiming i had lupus, ms, chrohns. not one dictor looked fir cause of my symptoms had to find it myself. stop going to docs, they create patients maker you sicker with rx drugs...i learned the hard way. lucky to find www.drsambailey.com and www.virusTruth.NET during the big convid.
I hear all that. V. frustrating. Especially having to rely on others — this has been the biggest disaster for me. Thinking I could rely on people it turned out I couldn’t. Live and learn.
I wasn’t able to get the information I needed to be satisified about the hair test; the details about what was actually being done test wise so it wasn’t anything other than a ‘oh well doesn’t really tell me anything’ test. You’re right that there is so much to test for. I told them what I thought it might be and the result came back with results indicating this possibility. The presence of possible degradation chemicals.
I’d already decided what it was and have been trying to detox accordingly. Seems to be heading in the right direction.
Sounds right to me, difficult to pin down actual results. I tried to look at being tested for sodium nitrite but could only find in UK those who will test meat/food. Useless lot.
I am glad you are moving in right direction.
if you feel good, why get tested? dont let yourself get labeled.
great videos explaining illness by dr. hebert shelton, and book Toxemia Explained. i found free pdf on archive.net or archive.com
Thanks. It was really to establish by tests if possible that sodium nitrite and the far more toxic nitrosamines are in my body. There will be other things too. As I indicated at the start of this thread I don't feel bad so much as very tired.
Yes. Useless. I was planning on building a lab before this nonsense. More so now.
I'm focusing only on detox, nutrition, and what little exercise I can get. Detox is such a big topic but I think it's the best bet.
I'm glad you are feeling better.
Thanks Linda. Getting there. Actually even since that post there have been improvements. I’m sold on gum turpentine. Even tastes OK.
So very glad to hear You have found something that is working to a greater extent than in past. I am certain My "auto-immune" issues - psoriatic arthritis, bone spurs - were the result of poisoning, but Mine came in a needle when I was 6. They said it was protection from DDT...er..."polio."
And when I had the money for treatment, I did not have the data to bring Me to see that I was poisoned, and now that I can see that that was what happened, I have no money. So buying things to help detox and all is a wee bit problematic.
Someday I will have what I need, but for now, I just persist.
Love always!
watch videos by Dr Herbert Shelton, Toxemia Explained. or book What Really Makes You Ill.
www.whatreallymakesyouill.com and www.VirusTruth.NET has free pdf of the book
no snake oil needed.
🙏🏻💜🙏🏻 Indeed!
I found myself ingesting small quantities of borax last year after reading an article online. Seeing the line
"for oil painting" reminded me of the experience.
Give anything a go once.
shouldnt need to do any of these fad remedies. clean water real food, real meat real dairy fresh fruit etc organic if possible, no alcohol, no rx drugs, is all the body needs, the body is brilliant detoxes itself if you do best to stop what is poisoning you. read Toxemia Explained and videos by dr hebert Shelton
I use borax, frequently and have done for a few years, but it’s not a detox material. A rebuild ingredient imo.
Do you want to say how you came to drink the herbicide?
I remember *Tordon* from down on the farm.
Council was spraying it alongside the river (supposedly to kill broom) I was taking my drinking water from at exactly the time my symptoms manifested. I found out from a neighbour six months later. Rural, very remote property. They shouldn’t even have been there. No signs etc.
You will have seen Tordon around the farm. It’s very popular and very dangerous.
I can see why you have gone with the 'Poisoned Kiwi' moniker.
You would have kept drinking that water too.
Not just once.
No adequate response after the fact is there.
I did have a response at the time but couldn’t implement it-too ill. Too late now. The person who should have helped refused to do anything. Pretty helpless in that situation.
My lesson? Choose the people closest to one very very carefully. Age and wisdom aye.
Thank you for sharing the details. I'm so glad for you that you found something that really makes an obvious difference! That must be very exciting. Did you just start the Gum Turpentine a couple of weeks ago?
i cured my lupus by simply stopping the drugs they scared me into. no toxic terpentine or any other weird substance needed. water and real food, sun, clean air all the body needs.
we cant control emf and govt chemtrails,
www.VirusTruth.NET
I did. After a year of trying to get my body 'right' and a year of research before that. Slowly slowly catchy monkey seems my way forward. Thank you.
Eagerly awaiting more exciting news from you! ❤️